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TECHNICAL BOARDS => Technical Support => Topic started by: KrisiS on July 24, 2011, 11:47:49 AM
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Need advicve on some upgrades, at present I have this in mind.
CPU:
http://www.elara.ie/productdetail.aspx?productcode=MMEB960630 (http://www.elara.ie/productdetail.aspx?productcode=MMEB960630)
M.BOARD:
http://www.elara.ie/productdetail.aspx?productcode=ECE2240981 (http://www.elara.ie/productdetail.aspx?productcode=ECE2240981)
RAM:
http://www.elara.ie/productdetail.aspx?productcode=GCE12215 (http://www.elara.ie/productdetail.aspx?productcode=GCE12215)
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RAM:
http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/8GB+Mushkin+Redline+Ridgeback+%23996997+%282x4GB%29+DDR3+2133MHz+9-11-10-28+?productId=44359 (http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/8GB+Mushkin+Redline+Ridgeback+%23996997+%282x4GB%29+DDR3+2133MHz+9-11-10-28+?productId=44359)
About the same price but i think its better
CPU:
http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/Intel+Core+i7-2600K+3.40GHz+%28Sandybridge%29+Socket+LGA1155+Processor+-+Retail+?productId=43214 (http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/Intel+Core+i7-2600K+3.40GHz+%28Sandybridge%29+Socket+LGA1155+Processor+-+Retail+?productId=43214)
Cost a little more but it can be overclocked
M.BOARD:
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Motherboards/Intel+1155+Z68+%28B3%29/ASUS+P8Z68-V+Intel+Z68+%28REV+B3%29+Socket+1155+DDR3+PCI-Express+Motherboard+?productId=44571 (http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Motherboards/Intel+1155+Z68+%28B3%29/ASUS+P8Z68-V+Intel+Z68+%28REV+B3%29+Socket+1155+DDR3+PCI-Express+Motherboard+?productId=44571)
Also cost a bit more.
Good luck :D
Anyway if you call the Aria Techsupport they can give you a good advise
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thesec? this is ur department!! cmon, help your brethren.. :)
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Have a max of about €400/€450 ...
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jus ttold him, mate..; he's playing atm but will have a look in a sec ^^
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you might aswell go AMD :P unless you have the money like me you can go Intel but that sandy bridge iv herd some bad things about it its not as good what people make out it is:P
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Ive always had AMD, then changed this machine to intel. TBH, I have no great interest in OC'ing and rarely run this OC'd so the fact that AMD is MUCH cheaper than intel at this point in time is pushing me that direction.
Whats the issue with my PSU ? At present it is powering an Abit IP35 pro mboard, I assume this is not going to power an AMD mboard?
Is there a connection convertor ?
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All PSU's are the same with the connections so that's not going to be a problem.
To make a long story short I would recommand the INTEL setup above the AMD setup. But because you said you are more interested in AMD I made a setup for AMD aswell. So you would have something to choose.
INTEL:
Intel Core i5 2500K Boxed(180,-)*
Asus P8Z68-V(140,-)*
G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL(60,-)*
TOTAL: 280,-
AMD:
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition(110,-)*
Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3(85,-)*
Kingston ValueRAM KVR1333D3N9K2/4G(25,-)*
TOTAL: 215,-
If you are looking for a start up system in which case you would like get a better graphics card in a while, I would really strongly recommand the INTEL system. Intel has a bit less bang for buck but because it's faster and mission is to deliver the highest performance. You could probably do 4 ~ 5 years with this start up and to into overclocking in a later stage. in which with the AMD system you whould need a new system in around 2 years. especially if you like to run the latest games ;)
Kind regards,
TheSec.
*Prices are here in Holland.
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you might aswell go AMD :P unless you have the money like me you can go Intel but that sandy bridge iv herd some bad things about it its not as good what people make out it is:P
In replay to this qoute:
Sandy bridge is better but if you got a i7 920 and have it (oc) to 3,8Ghz, it gets very close to the i7 2600K with sandy bridge. But that's just because het X58 is really really good! You also got triple channel memory buffering witch is very nice ;D especially if you go like video rendering and got a lot of stuff to compute ;)
Not that i make movies but i saw you guys have a video of the week. In which you guys compete @ making video's about black ops.
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you might aswell go AMD :P unless you have the money like me you can go Intel but that sandy bridge iv herd some bad things about it its not as good what people make out it is:P
In replay to this qoute:
Sandy bridge is better but if you got a i7 920 and have it (oc) to 3,8Ghz, it gets very close to the i7 2600K with sandy bridge. But that's just because het X58 is really really good! You also got triple channel memory buffering witch is very nice ;D especially if you go like video rendering and got a lot of stuff to compute ;)
Not that i make movies but i saw you guys have a video of the week. In which you guys compete @ making video's about black ops.
iv got the extreme :P of the extreme :D all watercooled
and i have the i7-990 extreme
it shows my stats on my posts on my sigeture if you see:P
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU X 990 @ 3.47GHz ¦¦ Cores: 16 ¦¦ Clock Speed: 3471 MHz
Memory: 6GB DDR3 2000Mhz
Computer Case: Antec 1200
Video Card: ATI Radeon 5970 2GB GDDR5
CPU Heat Sync: H50 (Compleate Water-Cooled System)
Speakers/Headphones: Roccat-Kave-Solid-5-1
Keyboard: Logitech G15
Mouse: Sentinel Twin Lazer Gaming Mouse
Motherboard: Asus Rampage III Extreme
PSU: 1000 watt corsair
some people are waiting for the AMD buldoser for there 8 cores as iv been reading up its ment to out do my i7-990 but i wont count on it till it comes out and people test it proper
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bottom line is get what you can afford, the i7 are great but at the moment there is no game out there thats needs all this power to run, and when 1 does come out the price of the hardware will have fallen dermaticlly.
top end i5 are great too,
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bottom line is get what you can afford, the i7 are great but at the moment there is no game out there thats needs all this power to run, and when 1 does come out the price of the hardware will have fallen dermaticlly.
top end i5 are great too,
just a thoght.
Why would you buy an i5 and change it like a year later for i7?
even if the price of i7 will drop u will end up spend the same amount of money and your performance is less
dont know if u get it but i cant explain any beter
oh and 2 new games coming in November and i think they both need a good pc to run smooth
if u cant afford it now wait a bit more
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someone here said something about sandy bridge not being all that. He is so wrong...the 2nd gen i7 is absolutely brilliant. when overclocked (which has become so easy now), it is on par with i7 970 top end. and its just 30% of the price.
krisis dunno if you know this amazing benchmarking site for cpu and vga cards. if u dont, please do take a look to see how amd does rate on top end. it is not all that pretty i'm afraid.
just select which category you want to view.here:
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/ (http://www.cpubenchmark.net/)
hope that helps.
my rig:
cpu: intel i7 2600k
mb: asus p8p67
ram: corsair vengeance 16gb
gpu: gigabyte gtx 460
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someone here said something about sandy bridge not being all that. He is so wrong...the 2nd gen i7 is absolutely brilliant. when overclocked (which has become so easy now), it is on par with i7 970 top end. and its just 30% of the price.
krisis dunno if you know this amazing benchmarking site for cpu and vga cards. if u dont, please do take a look to see how amd does rate on top end. it is not all that pretty i'm afraid.
just select which category you want to view.here:
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/ (http://www.cpubenchmark.net/)
hope that helps.
my rig:
cpu: intel i7 2600k
mb: asus p8p67
ram: corsair vengeance 16gb
gpu: gigabyte gtx 460
if you are into benchmarks i would recommend
3DMark06 + 3DMark11 and Prime95 to get a stable system i would say when you have set your things up run Prime95 for at least 5 to 10 hours and watch your temps make sure they do not go over 70c when you get a steady temp run 3DMark06 or 3DMark11 to check your ram and graphics and cpu
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Mayby you should wait and ask multi i justfinish the assembly of the intel i5 system for him ;) Then we van get some feedback on that system. Windows score is a 7,6 and that's just his CPU that's holding him back. I'll see if i have his spec's around here somewhere.
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new pc installed, everything working fine!
I got awesome loading speeds and reading and writing is about 0,1 the speed it took before..
e.g. loading a MP map of BO took me about 1 minute.. now 10 seconds...
The graphics itself hasnt changed much, but the smoothness i have now is extraordinary..
(keep in mind that i'm a noob, what seems awesome for me could be 'eeeh' for you)
in short, this PC DELIVERS!! But seeing its the first day im really using it, its too soon to say, but lets put it like this.
If this PC became damaged or something i'd buy a new in the same week.
a piece of art ^^
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i'm glad you like the art ;)
Here are the specs.
Case:
CM 690 II Advanced (4x 5,25" extern, 6x 3,5" intern) TQXM2D
CPU:
Core™ i5-2500K (4x 3300 MHz) HR5I05
Motherboard:
P8Z68-V (Intel® Z68 Express) GREA70
RAM:
8 GB DDR3-1600 Kit (8192 MB) IDIFG7J1
Graphics:
GeForce GTX 560 Ti Superclocked (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti) JCXZFX
POWER:
PRO750W Core Edition (750 Watt) TN7VX2
HDD(1):
CT128M4SSD2 (128 GB) IMHMC5 (Windows and program's)
HDD(2):
HD103SJ (1.000 GB) AEBU11 (Storage, data, vids etc.)
WIFI:
TL-WN951N 300M (11 Mbit/s, 54 Mbit/s, 300 Mbit/s) LWPK05
DRIVE:
IHAS124 (24 / 8 / 12 speed) CEBL5Q
total:
1.107 euro ;)
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looks Good ;)
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aint bad :P
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Guess I should have updated this thread, I upgraded already.
Very nice performance improvement for a budget upgrade.
CPU:
AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz Black Edition
M.BOARD:
ASROCK M3N78D - Socket AM3 - Chipset 720D - ATX ;D
RAM:
8GB DDR3-1600 - PC3-12800
GPU:
PNY GeForce GTX 460 - 768 MB GDDR5 - PCI-Express 2.0
Total Cost: €370
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gald to hear it worked out in the end :) whats your fps now?
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Guess I should have updated this thread, I upgraded already.
Very nice performance improvement for a budget upgrade.
CPU:
AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz Black Edition
M.BOARD:
ASROCK M3N78D - Socket AM3 - Chipset 720D - ATX ;D
RAM:
8GB DDR3-1600 - PC3-12800
GPU:
PNY GeForce GTX 460 - 768 MB GDDR5 - PCI-Express 2.0
Total Cost: €370
you should go the AMD 6 core or if you wait for 1 month get the new AMD Buldoser 8 core cheap as hell £100 n something
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you should go the AMD 6 core or if you wait for 1 month get the new AMD Buldoser 8 core cheap as hell £100 n something
Perhaps another time, not sure many games will be running 8 core's in the near future.
For the budget I had at this time, I'm very happy with the gains my modest PC has given me :)
Not sure exactly the difference of FPS Dark, but it runs an awful lot smoother. Lets just say it doesnt drop into the 40's - 50's anymore :)